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 Post subject: Maparam Blunt Labium
PostPosted: 05 Mar 2013, 22:53 

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I'm an ocarina maker myself. I started about two years ago. I haven't really showed my work but will be soon. But I like to study something before doing. So I wanted to see if there was any information out there about the blunted Lip on a maparam and how it corresponds with its airway to produce such a sound. I have never owned a Maparam because of the discontinuation of the ocarina. So I came to this ocarina forum. Also any Korean makers out there that would know what kind of clay a Maparam is made out of. Here is a photo of a Maparams internals Link: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4828110/images ... inside.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4828110/images ... bottom.jpg

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 Post subject: Re: Maparam Blunt Labium
PostPosted: 07 Mar 2013, 04:45 

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I have never had the pleasure of owning a maparam ocarina but this is what I have heard. To some extent, the sharpness of the labium does not so much matter. It really comes down to the right amount of air being split. By this I mean that it has more to do with the ratio. Now don't take this to the extreme, you can't blow an air stream into a wall and it make a sound, but it doesn't have to necessarily strike a really sharp edge to get a proper sound. You may want to look at woodsound ocarinas because I think they may use a similar design for their labium edge. If you look at maparam ocarinas you will notice that they don't really have a impression or ramp leading to the labium edge. This may be what people say when they talk about the blunt edge of the maparam but I am not positive. Having a ramp leading to the labium is not really necessary as long as there is still an edge for the airstream to be split. The way that he made his ocarinas where he did not need a ramp is by moving the windway closer to the surface of his ocarinas.

I'm sure some other makers like Ross and Kalasinar can help you with this too.

Now I understand you are just trying to reach a high quality in your ocarinas sound like the maparams do. But make sure that you don't aim to copy the maparams sound. Ocarina making is a personal journey. Each maker should aim to create their own personal sound or all ocarinas would sound the exact same. What I am saying is make sure that the ocarinas you make are from you and not a copy of someone else. But I do understand what you mean. In the beginning of my ocarina making journey, I wanted nothing more then to reach the sound quality of one makers ocarinas, but as I learned more and more, I began to aim not for his sound quality but for my own personal sound.

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 Post subject: Re: Maparam Blunt Labium
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Yes exactly I want to find my own true sound in my ocarinas. Of course there not high quality yet but they are getting there. But I think from studying other ocarinas from other makers helps us understand the instrument in very unique ways. We gain knowlegde from mistakes or corrections from the past. So each time a new ocarina maker prevails they can learn from our mistakes and corrections so that they gain more knowledge to surpass ours. Oh and Thank for the great response! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Maparam Blunt Labium
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Yes definitely beneficial to learn from other makers. I just wanted to make sure and tell you to make your own personal ocarina because I have seen many people try to make perfect copies of other makers and it makes me sad.

But feel free to ask us questions! We would be happy to help!


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 Post subject: Re: Maparam Blunt Labium
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Thanks, Also in the course of a week or so I'll be showing some of my ocarinas of unfired. I don't have a full batch yet for my bisque firing.


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 Post subject: Re: Maparam Blunt Labium
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Cant wait to see them. Just post it in the ocarina constructor section when you are ready


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 Post subject: Re: Maparam Blunt Labium
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I am not going to give away the answer (half of the fun is in the learning right, plus I doubt I know it 100% yet anyway), but the angle of the airstream relative to the labium is verry important and the air must be able to easily escape the voicing for the high notes to be clear.


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 Post subject: Re: Maparam Blunt Labium
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a blunt labium lessens the overtones and also makes a note's attack easier. There are additional answers, but I believe those to be the most important.


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