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 Post subject: Really classy ocarina at a British auction house
PostPosted: 05 Dec 2013, 16:07 

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You've missed it, the auction was in June. Metal-rimmed fingerholes, even:

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 Post subject: Re: Really classy ocarina at a British auction house
PostPosted: 06 Dec 2013, 10:58 

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I wonder for how much it went. I certainly wouldn't pay 200 GBP for it.


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 Post subject: Re: Really classy ocarina at a British auction house
PostPosted: 06 Dec 2013, 13:17 

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That's why I don't belive in aution surveyiors and art specilist and that guys... why they reach a vallue like that to start a auction... BAH...


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 Post subject: Re: Really classy ocarina at a British auction house
PostPosted: 07 Dec 2013, 01:42 

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Anybody recognize it?

The initials on the silver plaque look like "ER", which would presumably be Ercole Roda.

The estimate wasn't a starting bid - auction houses don't operate like EBay. It was what they expected it to fetch. Since I've never seen anything else like it, I think they might not have been far wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Really classy ocarina at a British auction house
PostPosted: 07 Dec 2013, 13:25 

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The shape is obviously a copy of a Mezzetti ocarina. It is very difficult to tell who made it, but it is almost certainly not an original Mezzetti. It could very well be Ercole Roda (all of his ocarinas that I've seen pictures of are copies of Mezzetti), but your guess is as good as mine.



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 Post subject: Re: Really classy ocarina at a British auction house
PostPosted: 10 Dec 2013, 18:01 

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That is a really beautiful ocarina. I try to imagine the person playing it in it's earliest years.


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 Post subject: Re: Really classy ocarina at a British auction house
PostPosted: 10 Feb 2014, 04:36 

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I do think that ocarina was made by Ercole Roda.
If you notice, the right little finger holes has red paint in them. Every Ercole Roda ocarina I have seen has red paint in a few or all of the finger holes.


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 Post subject: Re: Really classy ocarina at a British auction house
PostPosted: 10 Feb 2014, 17:31 

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That is not red paint, it is sealing wax which has often been used for fine tuning the holes on many wind instruments, including the ocarina. Here is an example of an ocarina by C. Vicinelli with the same kind of wax on the holes:
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 Post subject: Re: Really classy ocarina at a British auction house
PostPosted: 10 Feb 2014, 23:54 

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A learning experience! :)
I always thought that the red in the holes was something Roda did to make his ocarinas a little different.
Do you know of any other makers who used sealing wax to fine tune their ocarinas?


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 Post subject: Re: Really classy ocarina at a British auction house
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my question is the tuning.

Judging from the fingerhole sizes, could the scale begin with the second fingerhole with a lower extended note one full step down the scale?

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 Post subject: Re: Really classy ocarina at a British auction house
PostPosted: 11 Feb 2014, 11:19 

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I think the fingering is the same as on any other ocarina. Right pinky hole is split - it plays C (relative) when it is fully covered and C# when only one part of it is covered and you have D when it is fully opened.


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